Christopher Chan
Sydney
Can't add to this list
Hi everyone,
I get the following error message when I try to add a place to this list :
Application error (Rails)
I tried using both Firefox 1.5.1 and Safari.
regards,
Chris
******* PLEASE, ONLY INTELLIGENT CHANGES TO THE LIST ! Who put their personal favorites first? Very hard work to compile, sort and maintain, the list includes both current cultural & natural 'properties' awarded as being irreplaceable assets to all mankind, SORTED ALPHABETICALLY by country. Some sites straddle boundaries, listed under both (or more) countries bringing the sum to 878 items here. Some images for this list are used with permission of UNESCO, additional images are greatly appreciated, your own images are gratefully appreciated. Also, learn more about how you can help to participant in the preservation of heritage at http://whc.unesco.org/en/69
Christopher Chan
Sydney
Hi everyone,
I get the following error message when I try to add a place to this list :
Application error (Rails)
I tried using both Firefox 1.5.1 and Safari.
regards,
Chris
rangutan
München
When during sorting I sometimes got that error too but usually when I click on the next point too quickly. Waiting a fewseconds during uploads seems to help. There was no data loss due to the error that I noticed. RR
TheBeaver
Montreal
You guys are missing Goree Island in Senegal. Should really add it, it’s a must see !
Christopher Chan
Sydney
You can add it to the list as well ! :)
The list is finally allowing me to add things to it.
Chris
Daniel Spils
Seattle
Anybody can adopt this list and add missing sites — go for it!
As for the errors, that’s not good. I’ll have Ivan look into it. Looks like we’ve also got a numbering issue to deal with. Thanks for pointing it out.
rangutan
München
http://whc.unesco.org/en/newproperties/
“19 NEWSITESHAVEBEENANNOUNCEDJUNE 2007 ANDCANNOW BE ADDED. WHOWOULDLIKE TO HELP? Add to the end of the list, I don’t mind doing the sorting”
“Rangutan” Rudi
rangutan
München
I have added all five heritage sites for the Philippines, currently #89 to #93
rangutan
München
Iv’e deleted Badaling and added “Great Wall”. During sorting I came across 3 double entries. Since we have also added so many sites, i’m sure users will go through the list again. Sorted by country and with pictures added, it is easier to identify sites that were visited. Apologies to those that might have marked those 4 deleted entries but it was nessecary to make the list better. RR
Marjolein Katsma
Amsterdam
I started to order the list a bit – alphabetically by country, as the UNESCO list is ordered – to make it easier to find places on the list.
But what a pain! If you just enter numbers for the new locations, it gets totally confused, so you can only use the arrow thingies, which is very slow.
rangutan
München
I found the numbering way to order and have tested it. It works well. Using a MS-Excell tabell with the complette ~900 entries and have added all the current www.bestsoflists.com (LoB)numbers to it. I have this on my monitor during sorting to keep track of things. I will be adding some UNESCO sites of countries A,B,Y & Z moving them to the correct position together with the already uploaded sites to test/time progress. The table helps, without it FORGET IT! Anyone can create it to help DEVELOPE the list. The shuffling works by both numbers and arrows, just pacience and concentration is needed!
Now that the list is ROUGHLY sorted ALL can add or/and maintain it easier! Please help – we still have 400 UNESCO sites to add!!!!
Thanks to all past and future contributers, hope this works out eventually! That needs some increadible patience and endurance over time – the list is NEVERENDING :-) RR
rangutan
München
I was on the verge of splitting this list but we are more than halfway done. Now, when one adds a string of new places withinin the same country they somehow get muddled up and a LOT of fine tuning has to be done.
I hope I can manage the rest: if things get really bad I want to split this list into continents:
UNESCO Heritage sites in AMERICA
UNESCO Heritage sites in EUROPE
UNESCO Heritage sites in AFRICA
UNESCO Heritage sites in ASIA
UNESCO Heritage sites in AUSTRALPACIFICO (includes south Pacific islands & Antarctica)
What do members think?
I will attempt anyway to get a WHOLE list together called:
“All 850 UNESCO Heritage Sites”
The advantage of a main list is that a sublist (eg. CONTINENTS) is very easy then to create :-)
RR
rangutan
München
New: we are looking for a programmer that can help us change the colour of text (eg. red or pink or even just bold). This is necessary for the clickable index where we have three entries for Korea, the Vatican is hidden under “Holy Sea” and also for the Congo countries problem! [RR 2007-09-22]
This list is never complete, anyone can help by making this list better, correct and add (more & better) pictures and the coordinates for mapping and satellite images, a fantastic feature at 43places.com!
Sadly by making improvements (specially renaming) sometimes user marks are lost. Users please check and update your “been there” or “want to go there” settings occasionaly for modified entries.
We have tried to keep most names simple. A simple city name in the list usually means the “old city”, “city center” or even specifically monuments and structures or parts of a city as determined by UNESCO. eg Istanbul.
Marjolein Katsma
Amsterdam
That’s a wonderful job you did – I can well believe it took 8 hours to sort after the parts I sorted!
I also note you added just the Great Wall in China – people who visited one particular part will now just have to mark the whole as well; I tried to avoid that but didn’t know how.
Some problems belong on the “multiple parents” problem list – for each you find, please report a problem, note both parents, and note it belongs on the discussion list. By reporting all those cases we come across we can help to make the full scale of the problem can become visible.
Obviously Jerusalem is such a case, as as are a number of national parks in the US; Tibet is a already on the list.
I’ll add more as and when I have the time – my most poplular first ;-)
rangutan
München
History of progress & members contributing or using this list:
2005-11-16: first entries by Josh, Dan, Blaine, Chris & Matt
2006-05-12: 118 users, 120 places(16%)
2006-05-20: 125 users, 280 places(33%)
2006-06-16: 148 users, 404 places(50%)
2006-07-24: 166 users, 555 places(67%), 37% pics
2006-08-02: 178 users, 642 places(75%), 46% pics
2006-08-07: 186 users, 734 places(86%), 56% pics
2006-08-10: 190 users, ALL places (100%), 71% pics
2006-09-19: 227 users, 81% pics, little % mapped?
2007-03-21: 377 users, 90% pics, some % mapped?
2007-08-05: 499 users, 94% pics, more % mapped?
rangutan
München
1) Please add you own photos if possible. There is a copywright issue to be observed, if the picture is not yours, please at least credit the source of the image. Please never upload the work of professional photographers neither companies and corporations without their permission. Images, specially thumbnails from organisations and governments (.org & .gov) sites are easier tolerated legaly.
2) The UNESCO site gives coordinates in D.M.S. (degrees, minutes and seconds)but 43places.com uses decimal degrees! Josh correctly converts exactly, see http://www.43places.com/places/map/716106 where one can zoom exactly into the Bahrain archeological site seeing even cars and people visiting it.
One degree represents about 55 kilometers (35 miles) so just guessing the coordinates is not doing anyone a favour!
There are conversion tools online if needed:
http://sundials.org/links/local/pages/dd_dms.htm
or
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/DDDMMSS-decimal.html
rangutan
München
19 new sites were added in June 2007 and appeared on page 18. I have now sorted them alphabetically.
Thanks “Teitur” for adding them to our list with very suitable pictures too :-) Fantastic!
R’Rudi
Marjolein Katsma
Amsterdam
Go to “edit” the list, find one of the entries (hard sometimes because the country isn’t listed! you need to go by number) and from there you can delete it from the list.
(Cross-state, Cross-country, Cross-province entries are a problem in in 43places: until it reorganizes so entities can have multiple parents – as many need to have – we’ll have to kluge here…)
Thanks for pitching in and reducing my percentage to a more realistic one. :)
I made a start with sorting, doing it country by country. That works (I worked out a method that doesn’t get it totally confused), but it’s slow…
hydra
London
Having some procrastination time at work helped in that I added some photos from the UNESCO website to the list. Not fun, but mindless and numbing – which was exactly what I wanted… Great start to the list thus far!!!
Heidi
rangutan
München
…thanks for beautifing the list by adding so many of your colourful photos. I will try get the list up to dated soon, well before they declare new sites! R’Rudi
Josh Petersen
Seattle
I’ve been adding map coordinates for all the places. I’ve made it through China so far. I’ve also been creating lists for specific countries with more than 1 UNESCO site, just to make it a littel easier to edit/navigate.
This is a great list!
rangutan
München
I like your other lists too and your UNESCO series will be of use to a lot of people who travel only regionaly. To make your series complete, how about creating two more lists;
“Countries without a UNESCO Heritage Site” and “Countries with a single UNESCO Heritage Site”?
Rudi
rangutan
München
Josh, only today do I see the purpose of co-ordinates and where they are! once every site has atleast one picture, I might start from Z and work backwards with designating co-ordinates for the newly discovered zoomable map and satellite imagery, brilliant and thanks!
rangutan
München
The UNESCO site gives coordinates in D.M.S. (degrees, minutes and seconds)but 43places.com uses decimal degrees! Josh correctly converts exactly, see http://www.43places.com/places/map/716106 where one can zoom exactly into the Bahrain archeological site seeing even cars and people visiting it.
One degree represents about 55 kilometers (35 miles) so just guessing the coordinates is not doing anyone a favour!
There are conversion tools online if needed:
http://sundials.org/links/local/pages/dd_dms.htm
or
http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/bickel/DDDMMSS-decimal.html
rangutan
München
The list includes the current 848 (2007)cultural and natural sites (“properties”) which are considered as special and irreplaceable heritage assets to mankind. They include 644 cultural, 162 natural and 24 mixed properties in 138 countries. Some sites are listed twice of more if they straddle borders making a total of 857 entries here.
Some UNESCO sites are repeated when shared between nations, so the 830 officially recognised properties make up 857 different places here. Example, the “Geodetic Arc” runs from the Black Sea to the Arctic so is thus listed here 10 times under the various countries! Some National Parks are shared across international borders, a lot of sites across state/provincial borders!
See also “Comments” here for new entries awarded by UNESCO occasionaly and some irregularities. For inaccuracies please post here under comments rather than opening a new thread.
rangutan
München
Aflaj Irrigation Systems, Oman.
Aapravasi Ghat, Mauritius
Agave & Facilities Tequila, Mexico
Centennial Hall in Wroclaw, Poland
Chongoni Rock Art Area, Malawi
Cornwall & West Devon Mining Landscape, UK
Crac des Chevaliers & Qal’at Salah El-Din, Syria
Genoa: Le Strade Nuove & Palazzi dei Rolli, Italy
Harar Jugol, Ethiopia
Kondoa Rock Art Sites, Tanzania
Regensburg & Stadtamhof, Germany
Sewell Mining Town, Chile
Stone Circles of Senegambia, Gambia
Stone Circles of Senegambia, Senegal
Vizcaya Bridge, Spain
Yin Xu, China
Malpelo Sanctuary, Colombia
Sichuan Giant Panda Sanctuaries, China
Medieval Monuments in Kosovo, Sebia
Kvarken Archipelago & Coast, Sweden
Kvarken Archipelago & Coast, Finnland
rangutan
München
Confusion may arise in the list for cases where a name is Also-Known-As, “aka” another; Dem.Rep of Korea aka North Korea, Rep. of Korea aka South Korea, Rep. of Moldovia aka Moldovia, United R.o.Tanzania aka Tanzania, F.R.O.T.Y.M. aka Macedonia, Denmark’s Greenland aka Kalaalit Nunat, China(Tibet) aka Tibet(China), Vatican aka Holy See, Palestine aka Israel, Zaire aka Congo. For a lot of islands, protectorates & dependancies, generally see the ruling “mother” nation!
Serbia and Montenegro split into two countries 2006
Marjolein Katsma
Amsterdam
I had some trouble finding North Korea (DPRK) on the list since 1) it’s not in the countries list and 2) (unlike South Korea (ROK)) its listed alphabetically by it’s *un*official rather than official name (Democratic People’s Republic of Korea).
I wanted to find it, of course, since I’ve just visited that site!
rangutan
München
I’m pleased you found “Koguryo Tombs” eventually (page 11) and thanks for the perfect picture. You are so lucky to visit an unusual place.
Most members would personally prefere “Korea, North” and “Korea, South” to find them easier but the politicians choose funny long names so that deligates do not have to sit next to each other at the UN and other meetings! (Like Britain, Zaire, Tanzania and Taiwan do, try remember their official names or the otherway, FROTYM!)
Here at listsofbests we are stuck with the definitions and names at www.43places.com until they are eventually changed. Example Greenland is officially “Kalaallit Nunaat” since 1979!
rangutan
München
19 new sites were added in June 2007 and appear on page 18. I will do the sorting alphabetically soon.
Thanks “Teitur” for adding them to our list with suitable pictures too :-)
RR
MarieProze
Fontainebleau Forest
It’s not a Unesco WHS! Notre-Dame Cathedral of REIMS is!
(I know, it’s confusing…) ;)
rangutan
München
Thank you so much for pointing out an error that it may be corrected quickly. That is just what we need on this site, co-operation, together we can create something quite special. I have added the rest of the french UNESCO sites, please check those too, it is a very difficult language and region to add…..
I see there is a UNESCO “Notre Dame” in Belgium too! So it’s like in the English world “St. Mary’s” or better “Our Lady”. The PLACE is important.
RRudi
ardilla
Florida
I’m trying to clean up Argentina at 43 Places, sorting places into their respective provinces. Unfortunately, these 2 parks are in separate provinces, and before I rename it and create a separate entity I thought I’d consult with you guys first since it’s part of this master list. Any chance you can break up the two parks into separate entries so that they can be classified on their respective province?
Thanks in advance.
rangutan
München
UNESCO name the the site “Bahla Fort”. It can be found here on page 12, item 554
and for more info see
http://whc.unesco.org/pg.cfm?cid=31&id_site=433
R’Rudi