nickbrooks
United Kingdom

Not worth visiting!

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Although I’ve been to Morocco 3 times, I can’t bring myself to go back since spending time in Western Sahara, which Morocco invaded in 1975 and still occupies, with much oppression. In solidarity with my Sahrawi friends, displaced by the Moroccan invasion and now living in refugee camps in Algeria, I would urge people to think seriously about visiting Morocco, and effectively supporting the Moroccan occupation of Western Sahara. Morocco makes a lot of money from tourism and portrays itself as a stable country friendly with the West. As long as people ignore the Moroccan government’s continuing occupation of Western Sahara, the resolution of this situation is unlikely. In the meantime, no nation has recognised Moroccan sovereignty over Western Sahara, while many (some 65-70) recognise the exiled Sahrawi government. The UN has so far failed to organise a referendum on independence for Western Sahara, altough an observer mission has been there since 1991 with this mandate.

But I dont’ want to spoil anyone’s Moroccan holiday if they’ve already booked – most people have no idea of what is going on in Western Sahara, and are surprised to find out about it as it receives so little coverage. If you are going to Morocco I’d recommend Marrakech and Taroudant, but advise you not to bother with Casablanca.

If you haven’t booked that Moroccan holiday yet, and are feeling adventurous, come to Western Sahara instead!

More information on this issue via these sites:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/western_sahara_project/
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/~e118/wsahara.htm


Comments:

ra2fa
Morocco

morocco homeland security

due to your political involvement in morocco next time since we have already your name and picture we need to talk to you if you ever put your dirty ass in morocco you fugot.nick you’re an asshole becouse this forum is about travel and you know that the polizario is just taliban armed backed by algeria can’t hurt anyone , the sahara is moroccan and always being check your history .to others sorry and welcome to morocco the jewel of africa

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nickbrooks
United Kingdom

Marvellous!

Thank you for you interesting and eloquent response to this comment. The intention of my post was to get a reaction and I am delighted that I have succeeded. Needless to say may days of travelling in Morocco are over, as I have no desire to be deported, harassed, or to spend time in one of your prisons where the human rights of those who disagree with the current regime are routinely abused. You need not trouble yourself with empty threats, as your security services are already aware of my activities in Western Sahara, which have already been the subject of a complaint to the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office by the Moroccan ambassador in London. I will continue to choose to travel and work in the free zone of Western Sahara, with people fighting legitimately for their freedom and independence, rather than in Morocco. I know my history, and prefer it to the propaganda coming fromt he regime in Rabat. Saddam Hussein used history to justify his invasion of Kuwait, and history has been used to justify many acts of aggression. What counts today is justice, respect for human rights, and the right to self-determination.

I will forward you message to the adminstrators of this site, who I’m sure will be interested in your colourful language.

Bye for now!

ra2fa
Morocco

shame but not a surprise since you are from .... uk citizen involved with the polizario mafia

Children of Moroccans sequestered in Tindouf camps (southern Algeria) are deported by groups of thousands to Cuba, which leaves deep sufferings, the most terrible of which is the denial of maternal love, denounced Ms Saadani Maoulainaine, herself a victim of deportation, before a group of German reporters.
Children are kidnapped at the age of eight, said the woman, who spent 13 years of forced exile in Cuba.

She also deplored that displaced children are losing all their identity references, including Arabic language, traditions and dressing, insisting that the most cruel deprivation is the loss of maternal love and family warmth.

She also explained that this technique is used by the Algeria-backed Polisario separatists as a pressure on parents who are, as a result, at the mercy of the mercy of their torturers

Maoulainaine, now a sociologist, further recounted how the graduates have their diplomas confiscated by the Polisario and the sufferings inflicted on those sequestered in the camps, where abuses and other forms of tortures and human rights violations are a daily practice.

My father died in the Polisario jails as a result of torture, and this left me with a psychological trauma, she said, stressing that her trip in Germany is meant to reveal to the German public opinion the Polisario practices.

Another former member of the Polisario, Ms. Keltoum Khayat, also told the German media how the Polisario is receiving money and aid that go directly to the separatists’ pockets. The population held in the camps are used as a pretext for the Polisario leaders to collect money, said the woman who revealed that she was enrolled at a young age, like thousands of others, to serve the personal interests of the separatists who are seeking the separation of the Moroccan Southern provinces, known as the Sahara from the rest of the country. The former Spanish territory was retrieved by Morocco in 1975 under the Madrid Accords signed with Spain and Mauritania.

The former official in charge of women’s international relations at the Polisario also unveiled before the German media some of the inhuman practices in the camps and that includes forced marriage for young girls and denying them contraceptives in order to increase the camps populations and claim more istance.

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hey yo bitch! you got nothing els in your fuking life to talke about?? baby go get some life or atleast get you fat ass to the library and read some books about the “Islamic” impayer. sorry for my language but you pushed it over the limites. and if you want to talk trash about anything get some evidence, you should know that right? oh! i forgot you have never been to school before.

sofiane2006
0 places

to ra2fa

Shut your big dumn ass. the only talking you’ll do is in your dreams. If you had any courage, you’ll first speack againts your king who made you all slaves. The only thing you are good for is to kiss French’s ass.

ra2fa
Morocco

me shut up?

sofiane by your name you must be fils de pute algerian la famine rien labas tu vient insulte un arabe comme toi pede alors je vais te dire les marocains ahrar w syadak ya wald lahram va te faire encule par les francais dont vous ete encore atache par song et morale .

nickbrooks
United Kingdom

Il faut d'ameliorer ma Francais...

Hey! Good to hear from you again, although my French isn’t so good, so I can’t understand all the no doubt excellent, subtle and intelligent points you make in the old colonial language. But do keep your interesting and constructive comments coming, Habibi – they are very instructive to both me and anyone else interested in the conflict in Western Sahara. Ma’a salaama for now…

ra2fa
Morocco

are you from that petrol diging uk company hahaha dream!!

go here and see for your self dick what we did after the liberation of our sahara http://www.westernsaharaonline.net/gallery/

ra2fa
Morocco

give your brain some light..roten rat

There has never been an internationally recognized army called the Western Sahara army.

Abdelaziz is by legal definition a treason-committer who has sold his country and its citizens out to their enemies.

His leadership of a murder squad in the concentration camps in the region of Tindouf in Algeria is a violation of international law and the Geneva Conventions.

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights, since its inception in 1948, has prohibited the killing and torture of individuals.

Nonetheless, the killings have continued unabated for decades and many thousands of innocent Moroccans are still held captive to a cause which has no legality or legitimacy of any type, and which is the POLISARIO’s claim that an integral part of the Moroccan territory is theirs.

Morocco was violated for many years before it regained its partial independence in 1956. The French and the Spanish dissected its territory into two major parts, drew a line in the sand, and gave artificial labels to the northern and southern provinces of the country.

They called the north “Morocco” and the south “The Western Sahara.” This line in the sand was unnatural and antipodal to the very fabric of the great nation of Morocco.

This is why when the Spanish “Conquistadors” were ousted in 1975, it was only a territorial and familial reunification of two halves which could never survive without each other.

The thousands of Moroccan liberators did not die in vain for the POLISARIO and their co-conspirator Algerian leaders to steal their legacy, one which is full of love to the land, to God, to each other, and to their King. After decades of incessant struggle, and after the European invaders left, the Moroccan nation rejoiced to have regained its complete identity.

This has showed to the world that no matter how hard the plotters try to concoct plans of deception and trickery, the will of the people always prevails. History can testify to this fact in more crystal-clear ways than the mind can fathom. Therefore, the invariable conclusion which we can all come to is that the leadership of the POLISARIO along with its co-conspirators, those in the Algerian military establishment, have one and only one course of action to take. It is the course of logic and co-existence.

It would be futile on their part to think for one second that a nation-state that is as rooted in history as the human race, and which is as strong-willed as the very faithful will buckle under pressure.

Boyle’s Law should serve them a lesson, for the law is so strong that no force in the world can modify it. It is a law which holds true for all loyal people, and those people are the 33 million strong Moroccans from Tangiers to Lagouira, and their brethren here in our blessed United States of America and the rest of the world.

ra2fa
Morocco

more for your criminal friends

The Moroccan Sahara will always be Moroccan
about moroccan sahara: The Moroccan Sahara will always be Moroccan no matter what the Algerian Mafia generals do to try to destablise out southern provinces. As time goes on support for this fake Algerian creation called the polisario will dissipate and at last the Algerian leadership will come to its senses. Anyone who reads history of polisario will quickly realize that the polisario was created and supported by Algeria for the interests of creating a puppet government that can be controlled from Algiers. Pure and simple.
Each year hundreds of Moroccan kids are forcibly taken from their concentration camps based in Tindouf to Cuba where they are effectively brought up as communists, many of them only know Spanish and not a single word or Arabic! Talk about colonialism, isn’t this what colonialism is all about – wiping a peoples culture, language and religion!

The core of the problem is a group of Algerian generals who since Algerian independence haven’t let go of power. Boutflika cannot go against these generals, so even though he may have personal ambitions to heal the wounds between Algeria and Morocco – he can’t.

Amnesty International have consistently called upon the Polisario and Algerian regime to release all Moroccan prisioners who are being detained against all international law on ALGERIAN soil. But as usual the polisario duck and dive the issue. It’s a well known fact that these Moroccans are detained in filthy sub-human conditions and repeatedly tortured. Some have recently been released only to die within days due to poor health. Can someone show me the justice in this?

Why all this goes on what do the Algerian regime do – embark on a mive armament procurement, buying the latest Russian fighters, and surface to air missiles, while their people live in poverty. It’s about time the Algerian people wake up and smell the coffee, since their revolution has only replaced one group of crooks (French) with another (Mafia Generals).

nickbrooks
United Kingdom

So much bile

Well, forgive me if I don’t read all of these comments in great detail, given the rather abusive tone. I will respond briefly though, to the bits that I’ve quickly scanned.

The conflict in Western Sahara, which is currently partitioned into the Moroccan occupied zone and the so-called “Free Zone”, is a result of Morocco’s invasion of the the territory in 1975, which happened as the former Spanish colonial authorities withdrew. The Polisario had been fighting for independence from Spain, and naturally then fought against the Moroccan invasion and occupaiton. The bottom line is that the Sahrawi, who inhabit Western Sahara, wanted to be independent, and their right to self-determination was recognised by the international community. This is why the UN has been trying to organise a referendum on independence since it brokered a ceasefire between Morocco and the Polisario in 1991. The UN recognises Western Sahara as one of a few remaining “non self-governing territories” and no country has formally recognised Moroccan sovereignty over the territory. On the other hand, some 65 (mostly African) countries recognise the Polisario as the government of the “Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic”.

My knowledge of the situation there is informed by a number of visits to the Sahrawi refugee camps in Algeria, and the Free Zone, and not by propaganda originating from a government headed by a hereditary Monarch who is continuing his father’s expansionist policies. Claims that the Polisario hold people hostage in the camps and send them forcibly to Cuba to be abused are propaganda. The Sahrawi are free to move between the camps and the Free Zone, and many do with their herds when rainfall means there is pasture in the Free Zone. Otherwise the lack of water the risk of renewed conflict means the Free Zone is not viable for large-scale settlement. Sahrawi children and teenagers go all over the world on exchange visits and for shooling, as the refugee camps, which survive largely on donations from Algeria and the EU, do not offer comprehensive schooling opportunities to secondary level. Despite this, Sahrawi children are some of the best educated in Africa, and literacy rates are high (higher than in certain neighbouring countries…)

The Polisario did hold Moroccan prisoners for many years, and they are not saints. But they have been fighting a war imposed on them by Morocco, and Morocco bears responsibility for the conflict. Moroccan PoWs were held as bargaining chips, and one can argue about the morality of this, sure. But plenty of Sahrawi were also held by the Moroccans, and many “disappeared” in custody. Today in the occupied territories Sahrawi are treated as second class citizens and are routinely harassed, arrested and beaten by the Moroccan authorities, and a number have died in custody or disappeared.

On a recent trip to the Free Zone I met a group of Africans who had been trying get into Europe via Morocco, but who had been arrested by Moroccan authorities and dumped in the desert on the Polisario side of the “Berm” – the Moroccan wall built to keep the Polisario out of the occupied zone. Along with some 100 other illegal migrants dumped in the desert by the Moroccans they were being looked after by the Polisario and were waiting to be repatriated, or just waiting to see what happened next. While the Sahrawi, who themselves have to exist on charity, were looking after these people who had been left to die in the desert by the Moroccans, the Moroccan media were running stories about the wonderful treatment illegal migrants received in Morocco, and as usual villifying the Polisario and criminals.

If any crime has been committed here it is the invasion and occupation of Western Sahara by Morocco, and the continuing oppression of the Sahrawi people by the Moroccan colonial authorities. But legality aside, the bottom line is that a people who want to determine their own future have been denied the right of self-determination by a land-hungry country run by an unelected Monarch. The United States and its friends have been known to invade countries for such actions, but as long as Morocco keeps on good terms with the West and bribes it with access to markets and the lure of oil exploration contracts, the West will turn a blind eye.

Sahara Libre.

It's sad

to see that people from Morocco belive that we do not know their history.
Unfortunately we live in a part of the world where is possible, boys and girls, to study and know what’s going on in the rest of the planet.


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